John said it best and this cover is lovely:
Wasanelder Once
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Do you have a place to get away from it all?
by compound complex inis your retreat .
an actual location, or simply a quiet place in your mind?.
i attended a concert on sunday, a featured piece having been commissioned by a composer who lives in the city but retreats to an island in the puget sound (usa) to write his music.
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Wasanelder Once
It has spread the scourge of "the Limbo" worldwide.
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Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)
by freddo inso i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
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Wasanelder Once
jp 1692, "Sure we can. We might understand him, but that doesn’t excuse the inexcusable. Everyone—EVERYONE—is ultimately responsible for the consequences of their decisions and their actions."
Fault a man in his mid 80's?, go ahead. How are we "excusing" him? The guy is likely near death and now locked in a mental and emotional prison. The only hope he has known is false and of course he is responsible for his own actions. I hate to break it to you but he no doubt hasn't a malicious bone in his body. Go ahead and hate. I think a little discernment and understanding is called for. Better he dies with some hope than none. We know its a fantasy, but is it our job to judge him for a lifetime of folly and think ill of him? You must have had it rough JP.
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Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)
by freddo inso i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
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Wasanelder Once
Some old timers think that if they stick it out their loved ones will at least have a faithful example to reflect on and it might just save their lives. Cant fault the old guy.
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Pacifism is Morally Indefensible
by cofty ini have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.
in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.
of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.
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Wasanelder Once
The reality is, If I choose not to fight I will likely not suffer the loss of my life or those of my children. World war 2 was on another continent as you'll recall. All wars are economic, don't kid yourself. Nothing involving war/governments is ever black and white.
"Of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done. The Third Reich had to be stopped by deadly force."
Not so clear cut. "General Motors was far more important to the Nazi war machine than Switzerland," said Bradford Snell, who has spent two decades researching a history of the world's largest automaker. "Switzerland was just a repository of looted funds. GM was an integral part of the German war effort. The Nazis could have invaded Poland and Russia without Switzerland. They could not have done so without GM."
Maybe if the U.S. had less greed the war wouldn't have been so large? People wouldn't have to die for Democracy?
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Visited My Grandfather
by Saethydd inmy grandfather is a longtime jw with advanced parkinson's.
on the advice of a good friend mine who is inactive but not "out" i went to visit him monday and we talked for awhile.
his health isn't well, but he was happy to see me.
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Wasanelder Once
It just keeps rolling along in its horribleness.
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Question
by poopie inif i text my disfelowshupp daughter and it's a normal text do i go to gehenna?.
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Wasanelder Once
I would say "roll again" and see if you can make it to Park Place.
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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?
by Moster injust wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?
we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.
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Wasanelder Once
Count me out.
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Years REALLY DO FLY BY!
by somebody ini just realized that i was 39 years old when i joined this discussion board.
i remember the morning conversations that always brought me laughter, and i think there were only a but about 9 or 10 regulars back then!
i will now turn 57 years old in a few months.
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Wasanelder Once
Just watched a skit on YouTube. It was from the Steve Allen show aka the Tonight Show. Don Knotts, Steve Allen, Louis Nye and Chuck Connors. They're all dead and I am old. Go figure. It was funny though, timeless.
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The wife told me I think too much...
by James Mixon inplease tell me how not to think too much and get a good night sleep.
when i was a jw i didn't think too much because i knew everything, but now my mind works overtime.
how in the hell can i shut it down and stop the anxiety???
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Wasanelder Once
James, sometimes obsessing on a thought is simply a looping prison for the brain. Examine what you are thinking about. Are you thinking to resolve a problem or just replaying the same thought again and again? I would call that worrying. Instead, take command of your thoughts. I channel them to some enjoyable event or memory I prize and engage in reliving some aspect of it mentally. Before I know it I am asleep. It can be a struggle sometimes but it works for me.